I agree that OBE's are quiet useful for realising that you are a whole lot more than just what you touch everyday. That first time is totally something else.
Can we say, that the ego is dissolved, when sleeping?
When I dream (not projecting out of the body), I still have some kind of self image.
Dreams are a very interesting subject whatsoever...
Blessings!
Ariel
· 1 year ago
Jasper, great question. It actually stumped me at first so I let it go and allowed myself to have the answer come to me.
The ego is not dissolved in the sense that one becomes enlightened. Rather, it's much easier to leave it behind the same way we leave behind the body like a pair of pants we're not wearing at the moment.
It is true that during a dream we can experience ego-like qualities such as a sense of identity, fear (nightmares), and desires. These are more like the soul forgetting who it really is in the moment than actually an ego, though we could say the two are very similar anyways.
One could also suggest that dreaming is very much like losing presence while daydreaming. We lose focus of the body and dreams all just our imagination. It's totally cool if you want to go with this model as well.
I just woke up having set the intention to understand this better and found that in the dream, it was much easier for me to access states of timelessness, the ability to fly weightlessly, death was possible only as a fictitious concept, travel through space can take one from "here" to "there" with every place in between, or it can be instantaneous. Right before I woke up, I was very high above this physical body. There was the fear that I couldn't come back down to earth without crashing to my death, but that was recognized as a fear. I heard a voice which told me exactly what I needed to know and then I fell right back into this physical body and woke up.
In the dream world it's much easier to experience higher states of being, but it's not the ultimate state. Generally the soul, after being used to living with a human body for a while, has trouble fully remembering who it really is. This is similar to ghosts who have trouble leaving the earth plane upon physical death. It's also related to how we can create any experience after death such as heaven, hell, being united with our relatives, and so on. We've forgotten our true identity, but the creative process continues upon "death" which allows us to experience whatever we so desire.
So I'd say that when dreaming, no the ego isn't dissolved, but it is let go of. Nevertheless, there is a memory effect of who we think we still are, but it's much easier to be our true Selves in the dream state than in physicality. It's not the same as enlightenment.
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I agree that OBE's are quiet useful for realising that you are a whole lot more than just what you touch everyday. That first time is totally something else.
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When I dream (not projecting out of the body), I still have some kind of self image.
Dreams are a very interesting subject whatsoever...
Blessings!
The ego is not dissolved in the sense that one becomes enlightened. Rather, it's much easier to leave it behind the same way we leave behind the body like a pair of pants we're not wearing at the moment.
It is true that during a dream we can experience ego-like qualities such as a sense of identity, fear (nightmares), and desires. These are more like the soul forgetting who it really is in the moment than actually an ego, though we could say the two are very similar anyways.
One could also suggest that dreaming is very much like losing presence while daydreaming. We lose focus of the body and dreams all just our imagination. It's totally cool if you want to go with this model as well.
I just woke up having set the intention to understand this better and found that in the dream, it was much easier for me to access states of timelessness, the ability to fly weightlessly, death was possible only as a fictitious concept, travel through space can take one from "here" to "there" with every place in between, or it can be instantaneous. Right before I woke up, I was very high above this physical body. There was the fear that I couldn't come back down to earth without crashing to my death, but that was recognized as a fear. I heard a voice which told me exactly what I needed to know and then I fell right back into this physical body and woke up.
In the dream world it's much easier to experience higher states of being, but it's not the ultimate state. Generally the soul, after being used to living with a human body for a while, has trouble fully remembering who it really is. This is similar to ghosts who have trouble leaving the earth plane upon physical death. It's also related to how we can create any experience after death such as heaven, hell, being united with our relatives, and so on. We've forgotten our true identity, but the creative process continues upon "death" which allows us to experience whatever we so desire.
So I'd say that when dreaming, no the ego isn't dissolved, but it is let go of. Nevertheless, there is a memory effect of who we think we still are, but it's much easier to be our true Selves in the dream state than in physicality. It's not the same as enlightenment.